Intel's Pentium M on the Desktop - A Viable Alternative?
by Anand Lal Shimpi on February 7, 2005 4:00 PM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
Clock Speed based Performance Comparison
While the price-based performance comparison is the more practical comparison, a comparison based on clock speed is quite possibly the more interesting. We took an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Socket-939, 2.0GHz) and pitted it against our 2.0GHz Pentium M 755 to see how efficient Intel's mobile core happens to be.Business/General Use | |||
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0GHz) | Intel Pentium M 755 (2.0GHz) | Performance Advantage | |
Business Winstone 2004 | 22.1 | 24.2 | 10% (Pentium M) |
SYSMark 2004 - Communication | 134 | 127 | 6% (Athlon 64) |
SYSMark 2004 - Document Creation | 169 | 187 | 11% (Pentium M) |
SYSMark 2004 - Data Analysis | 133 | 108 | 23% (Athlon 64) |
Microsoft Office XP with SP-2 | 544 | 546 | Tie |
Mozilla 1.4 | 360 | 321 | 11% (Pentium M) |
ACD Systems ACDSee PowerPack 5.0 | 553 | 574 | 4% (Athlon 64) |
Ahead Software Nero Express 6.0.0.3 | 497 | 510 | 3% (Athlon 64) |
WinZip Computing WinZip 8.1 | 448 | 396 | 12% (Pentium M) |
WinRAR | 566 | 370 | 53% (Athlon 64) |
Winner | - | - | AMD Athlon 64 3200+ |
The Pentium M is extremely competitive with the Athlon 64 in our business/general use tests, even outperforming it in four of the benchmarks. However, in tests where the Pentium M's 2MB L2 cache isn't enough, the Athlon 64 pulls ahead - such as the Data Analysis SYSMark 2004 test and the WinRAR test.
Multitasking Content Creation
Multitasking Content Creation | |||
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0GHz) | Intel Pentium M 755 (2.0GHz) | Performance Advantage | |
Content Creation Winstone 2004 | 30.9 | 27.9 | 11% (Athlon 64) |
SYSMark 2004 - 3D Creation | 174 | 168 | 4% (Athlon 64) |
SYSMark 2004 - 2D Creation | 214 | 238 | 11% (Pentium M) |
SYSMark 2004 - Web Publication | 161 | 160 | Tie |
Mozilla and Windows Media Encoder | 685 | 641 | 6% (Pentium M) |
Winner | - | - | Tie |
Surprisingly enough, the Athlon 64 and the Pentium M 755 give us a tie here. Content creation applications tend to be more memory bandwidth sensitive than not, so we were a bit surprised to see that the Pentium M did so well here, but it appears that the low latency L2 cache is able to make up for its lack of memory bandwidth. To AMD's credit, as applications increase in size, the Pentium M wouldn't be able to compete as well, but for present day applications, it's interesting to see the Pentium M do so well without the aid of AMD's on-die memory controller.
Video Creation/Photo Editing
Video Creation/Photo Editing | |||
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0GHz) | Intel Pentium M 755 (2.0GHz) | Performance Advantage | |
Adobe Photoshop 7.0.1 | 364 | 332 | 8% (Pentium M) |
Adobe Premiere 6.5 | 405 | 418 | 3% (Athlon 64) |
Roxio VideoWave Movie Creator 1.5 | 349 | 411 | 15% (Athlon 64) |
Winner | - | - | AMD Athlon 64 3200+ |
The race is fairly close here, but AMD pulls away in the two video editing tests.
Audio/Video Encoding
Audio/Video Encoding | |||
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0GHz) | Intel Pentium M 755 (2.0GHz) | Performance Advantage | |
MusicMatch Jukebox 7.10 | 540 | 529 | 2% (Pentium M) |
DivX Encoding | 40.8 | 36 | 13% (Athlon 64) |
XviD Encoding | 27.8 | 25.4 | 10% (Athlon 64) |
Microsoft Windows Media Encoder 9.0 | 1.85 | 1.83 | Tie |
Winner | - | - | AMD Athlon 64 3200+ |
The Pentium 4 completely blew the Pentium M away in the video encoding tests and while the Athlon 64 also manages to outperform it, the margin of victory isn't nearly as great. With a faster memory bus, it is possible that the Pentium M could significantly lessen the gap. Regardless, the win still goes to the Athlon 64.
Gaming
Gaming | |||
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0GHz) | Intel Pentium M 755 (2.0GHz) | Performance Advantage | |
Doom 3 | 90.3 | 85 | 6% (Athlon 64) |
Halo | 87 | 85.2 | 2% (Athlon 64) |
UT2004 | 58.7 | 55.2 | 6% (Athlon 64) |
Wolfenstein: ET | 93.1 | 85.5 | 9% (Athlon 64) |
Winner | - | - | AMD Athlon 64 3200+ |
Gaming performance is extremely close, but AMD takes the slight lead over the Pentium M.
3D Rendering
3D Rendering | |||
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0GHz) | Intel Pentium M 755 (2.0GHz) | Performance Advantage | |
Discreet 3dsmax 5.1 (DX) | 278 | 269 | 3% (Pentium M) |
Discreet 3dsmax 5.1 (OGL) | 344 | 350 | 2% (Pentium M) |
SPECapc 3dsmax 6 | 1.28 | 1.23 | 4% (Athlon 64) |
Winner | - | - | Tie |
3D Rendering performance is even closer between these two, leaving us with a tie between the Athlon 64 and the Pentium M at the same clock speed.
Professional Applications
Professional Applications | |||
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0GHz) | Intel Pentium M 755 (2.0GHz) | Performance Advantage | |
SPECviewperf 8 - 3dsmax-03 | 15.47 | 10.73 | 44% (Athlon 64) |
SPECviewperf 8 - catia-01 | 12.06/strong> | 9.096 | 33% (Athlon 64) |
SPECviewperf 8 - light-07 | 12.08 | 10.71 | 13% (Athlon 64) |
SPECviewperf 8 - maya-01 | 15.69 | 15.47 | Tie |
SPECviewperf 8 - proe-03 | 15.22 | 10.74 | 42% (Athlon 64) |
SPECviewperf 8 - sw-01 | 12.24 | 8.593 | 42% (Athlon 64) |
SPECviewperf 8 - ugs-04 | 13.99 | 10.24 | 37% (Athlon 64) |
Winner | - | - | AMD Athlon 64 3200+ |
The SPECviewperf 8 suite goes to AMD, as the Athlon 64 completely dominates the Pentium M, clock for clock, in these very memory bandwidth, latency and FP intensive tests.
Pentium M vs. Athlon 64 Clock Speed Based Comparison Conclusion
While the Athlon 64 3200+ pulled away with the win in most of our test suites (tying twice), the Pentium M 755 put up a very hard fight. Given how strongly the Pentium M competes with the Athlon 64 on a clock for clock basis, the obvious answer would be to use the Pentium M to compete with AMD instead of the Pentium 4, right?Wrong. The fundamental issue is that although the Pentium M is surprisingly competitive with the Athlon 64 on a clock for clock basis, the Pentium M's architecture can't scale to the same clock speeds that the Athlon 64 can. The fact of the matter is that while the Pentium M will hit 2.26GHz by the end of 2005, the Athlon 64 will be on its way to 3.0GHz and beyond. It's the same argument that was present during the Pentium III vs. Pentium 4 transition period, and we all know the result of that transition.
The Pentium M's astounding successes against the Athlon 64, despite the lack of an on-die memory controller and only a single channel DDR333 memory bus, are without a doubt due to its 10 cycle L2 cache. We've seen how much a reduction in memory latency can do for performance - the Athlon 64 is a living, breathing example of that. But an even greater reduction in L2 cache latency is even more powerful under the right circumstances.
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CSMR - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
The fact is it's an excellent processor for business use (speed, quietness, reliability) and multimedia use (quietness). Anandtech is full of gamers; but there is no denying that using a computer as a media centre is becoming a big thing, or that low-power, quiet operation is necessary. High motherboard prices are because the desktop PM motherboard market is very small. There was a comment in the review that the PM architecture doesn't scale well. I am sure that is so; but what processors do scale well? It's because they don't that everyone is about to go dual-core.bobsmith1492 - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
Thanks #12 :PZebo - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
I myself have been guilty of hyping dothan after seeing GAMEPCs "opimistic" review. This should quell that.:DZebo - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
Anand best review I've read here, thanks a lot, nice to see you scribing again..:)Seems again, like the tech report review, with a comprehensive test suite such as this one dothan has some collosal performance flaws, and simply can't match up the A64 across board. It looses 30 out of 41 benches at same speed, some huge. 2.0 vs 2.0..
I posted in CPU forum how turion/lancaster will be 25W.. could this be the end of DOTHANS laptop dominace?
Brian23 - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
I agree with #10.bobsmith1492 - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
Sorry; first time commenting. I couldn't remember my login name before.Anyway, my laptop OCs better than that. Granted, it's a 1.7 to begin with, but the FSB will do 125 easily, with the same ram increase to boot - 420 MHz, with processor at 2.125. It will do a tad bit more, but that's enough for a laptop I'd say.
bobsmith1492 - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
testKalessian - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
#6, Oh yeah? Well, give a P4/A64 an SXGP(Super eXtremely Good Performance) setting and stay out of ITS way!Yawn, right now the P-M doesn't impress me at all. Let a CPU built for mobile systems stay in mobile systems until it gets rebuilt for desktops properly.
Great review, learned a ton :)
GnomeCop - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
I have a 2.0ghz dothan system, I upgraded from an old 533mhz fsb p4.The speed for my work and games are just fine. I have a leadtek GF6800ultra in my system and its the only thing I have to worry about cooling.
CPU is passively cooled and the system is expremely quiet running on a 359watt psu. By the time I need to upgrade, I will be buying a whole new cpu/mobo/everything anyways.
ksherman - Monday, February 7, 2005 - link
seems like an a really good processor for buisness machines, given the L1 cahe speeds... and not much else (snas uber low power consumption)