AMD Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G Review: Zen 4 APUs with RDNA3 Graphics
by Gavin Bonshor on January 29, 2024 9:00 AM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
- AMD
- APUs
- Phoenix
- 4nm
- Zen 4
- RDNA3
- AM5
- Ryzen 8000G
- Ryzen 7 8700G
- Ryzen 5 8600G
CPU Benchmark Performance: Science And Simulation
Our Science section covers all the tests that typically resemble more scientific-based workloads and instruction sets. Simulation and Science have a lot of overlap in the benchmarking world. The benchmarks that fall under Science have a distinct use for the data they output – in our Simulation section, these act more like synthetics but, at some level, are still trying to simulate a given environment.
In the encrypt/decrypt scenario, how data is transferred and by what mechanism is pertinent to on-the-fly encryption of sensitive data - a process by which more modern devices are leaning to for software security.
Adding to our 2024 CPU suite, we've included the Montage Astronomical Image Mosaic Engine (MAIM) benchmark and OpenFOAM 1.2 and retained our gaming simulation benchmarks, including our Dwarf Fortress and Factorio benchmarks.
We are using DDR5-5200 memory as per the JEDEC specifications on the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G, as well as DDR4-3200 on the Ryzen 7 5700G and Ryzen 5 5600G. The same methodology is also used for the AMD Ryzen 7000 series and Intel's 14th, 13th, and 12th Gen processors. Below are the settings we have used for each platform:
- DDR5-5200 CL44 - Ryzen 8000G
- DDR4-3200 CL22 - Ryzen 5000G
- DDR5-5600B CL46 - Intel 14th & 13th Gen
- DDR5-5200 CL44 - Ryzen 7000
- DDR5-4800 (B) CL40 - Intel 12th Gen
In our simulated and science-focused tests, much of the same happens here as we saw in encoding and rendering; bigger cores and more of them make the difference. We did see strong AVX performance, which is a given since Zen 4 supports AVX-512 workloads via two 256-bit channels. We also saw solid performance in y-Cruncher, with the Ryzen 5 8600G beating out the Ryzen 9 7900 in single-threaded performance. This shows that despite using more power-efficient Phoenix dies, Zen 4 on mobile still offers solid single-threaded performance when transitioned over to the desktop.
Testing without STAPM limitations in our Science and Simulation benchmarks and removing the sustained power management limits didn't really make much difference in performance in these tests.
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TesseractOrion - Saturday, February 3, 2024 - link
Maybe take your meds Maxijazz if you feel so "threatened" LMAO.Right trash snowflakes get triggered so easily *sigh*
TesseractOrion - Saturday, February 3, 2024 - link
You do, since it's triggered your usual inane response LOLt.s - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link
As stated on other review comments, you'll be better served with 7840hs mini-pc. Better priced, better idle, better upper-limit power, almost as good againts 8700G (if there's given headroom).FWhitTrampoline - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link
There's no Processor upgrade path for the 7840HS as It's BGA and soldered to the MB! And there's 3rd party software for upping the TDP past 65W on the Mobile and Desktop Ryzen APUs!nandnandnand - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link
You don't need the upgrade path. The path you need to take is just use the thing for a few years and retire it for lighter duty (e.g. HTPC) or give it to a poor kid when you're done.Thunder 57 - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link
Tell that to everyone who upgraded CPU's on AM4.meacupla - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link
AM4 had a very long socket life. Long enough that AMD ran out of CPU numbers they could use in EEPROM with a single BIOS.AM5's life expectancy remains questionable.
meacupla - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link
8700G costs so much that it is a terrible choice to begin with.For the same price, you can get an i3-12100F with RX 6600, and it'll spit out more frames.
Thunder 57 - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link
I wouldn't recommend a 4 core CPU these days.meacupla - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link
Yes, but if you are budget constrained and think the 8 core 8700G is good value, you would be sorely mistaken.